Manning-Favre

Sorry I haven't posted in a while. Here's some Favre hate to make it up to you all. It was written before last season while arguing with a packers fan friend so some numbers might be outdated. Wins and playoff result is to try to gauge the team around the QB, using wins to rate QBs is ridiculously stupid.

Best Seasons: (Their Prime)
Favre:
Year Completion% Yards TDs INTs Record Playoffs

1994 62.4 3882 33 14 9-7 lost in Divisional
1995 63.0 4413 38 13 11-5 lost NFC champ
1996 59.9 3899 39 13 13-3 Won Superbowl
1998 63.0 4212 31 23 11-5 lost in Wild Card
ave. 62.1 4102 35.3 15.8 11 wins
career best 65.4 4413 39 13 13 wins
career ave 61.1 3833 27.6 18 9.9wins

Manning:
2000 62.5 4413 33 15 10-6 lost in Wild Card
2003 67.0 4267 29 10 12-4 lost in AFC champ
2004 67.6 4557 49 10 12-4 lost in Divisonal
2006 65.0 4397 31 9 12-4 Won Superbowl
ave. 65.5 4409 35.3 11 11.5wins
career best 67.6 4557 49 9 14 wins
career ave. 64.0 4176 30.6 15.4 10.2wins

Rookie/1st year as starter
Manning (rookie) 56.7 3739 26 28
Farve (rookie) 0 for 4 2INTs
Farve (1st full year as starter)
60.9 3303 19 24
Playoffs/awards Favre Manning
Playoff record 11-9 7-6
Superbowl wins 1 1
Superbowl MVPs 0 1
Probowls 8 of 15 seasons 7 of 9 seasons
League MVPs 3 in 15 seasons 2 in 9 seasons

But Farve didn't have the same kind of weapons Manning has:
(Player)career best-Catches yards TDs
Sterling Sharpe 112 1423 18
Marvin Harrison 143 1722 15
Antonio Freeman 84 1424 14
Reggie Wayne 86 1320 12
Javon Walker 89 1382 12
Donald Driver 92 1295 9
Dallas Clark 37 488 5

-Manning's career bests are better
-Manning's Top 4 seasons are better (Their Primes)
-Manning's Rookie Season was better than Farve's 3rd or 4th season in the NFL
-Their Teams have been almost the same in wins over their careers .3 wins per year difference
-Manning and Farve have had similar playoff sucess and awards, but Manning has done it in 6 less seasons and is still a member of a contender
-Manning has had an all-time great reciever in Marvin Harrison, but Farve has had great recievers too

Farve is one of the best QB's ever to play in the NFL and a sure Hall of Famer but his best seasons and career are not better than Manning's
So unless the criteria is how awesome you thought they were when you were 7. Farve's prime was not better than Manning's best seasons so far.

Sunday Recap

The Texans scored the first and the last touchdowns, but that was all for them. Between the Texans two touchdowns the Colts put up 38 points all scored in the first 3 quarters, before the starters were pulled. Minus the hopefully minor injury to Addai this game couldn't have gone any better. The offense was clicking, the D was strong, allowing only 7 points until the Texans scored in the final minute against the backups. Even the special teams play was only below average instead of awful. If Addai is ok and I'd guess that he is since he returned after his injury long enough for a powerful TD run up the middle, then the game was a total success.

Tom Brady continues to throw lots of passes and throw most of them very well. He now has 536 attempts, completing 366 for 68.3% completions, 4450 yards, 48 TDs and 8 INTs. At the end of his record breaking 2004 season Peyton Manning had thrown 39 less passes, completed the same number (336), for a completion % 0.7% lower, 107 more yards, one more, TD and two more INTs. Tom Brady has a very good chance of tying and breaking Manning's TD record, but to do it he will have had to have thrown the ball over 40 more times, and will have needed more completions and games than Manning did. Brady is great, but this season is far from proof that he is better than Manning.

In what little of the Pats-Dolphins blowout I could stand to watch I saw Brady throw a ball to a receiver running up the sideline which flew directly between the Dolphins safety's hands as he jumped in front for the easy pick and into Gaffney's hands for Brady's 48th TD . The announcers then praised Brady's arm strength for 5 straight minutes before even mentioning how unbelievably lucky he was to not have it picked off. Absolutely Ridiculous.

The Shaun Hill led Niners continued to give the Pats a big "F YOU" with another win today. Now the highest the 1st round pick obtained by the Pats can be is 4th and the lowest 14th. If the season ended today it would be the 8th. Keep on climbing Niners!

Kyle Orton completed a higher % of his passes for a higher yards per attempt and per completion and threw more TDs. Favre did have two more gun-slings.

Picks were 11 of 15 and the Chargers over the Broncos pick won't have me worried.